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An Honest Conversation About Comparison (Episode 11)
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An Honest Conversation About Comparison (Episode 11)

This one gets a bit spicy near the end.

Quote from Jeffrey J. Kripal:

“[T]he future hinges largely on how future generations, including (and especially) your generation, critically compare across cultural, religious, and social divisions.”

The “Two Gods” poem of Kabir Das (15th CE)
Translated by Linda Hess and Shukdeo Singh:

Brother, where did your two gods come from?
Tell me, who made you mad?
Ram, Allah, Keshav, Karim, Hari, Hazrat—
so many names.
So many ornaments, all one gold,
it has no double nature.
For conversation we make two—
this namaz, that puja,
this Mahadev, that Muhammed,
this Brahma, that Adam,
this a Hindu, that a Turk,
but all belong to earth.
Vedas, Korans, all those books,
those Mullas and those Brahmins—
so many names, so many names,
but the pots are all one clay.
Kabir says, nobody can find Ram,
both sides are lost in schisms.
One slaughters goats, one slaughters cows,
they squander their birth in isms.

Recommended text:

Kripal, Jeffrey J. Comparing Religions: The Study of Us that Changes Us. Wiley-Blackwell, 2024.

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